Trachemys scripta subspecies?

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Trachemys scripta subspecies?

Post by NorfolkTurts » Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:23 pm

I've got a pair of turtles, a male and a female but I'm not sure which (sub)species. I've had them about 2 1/2 years and the previous owners didn't know how long they'd had them so I don't know how old they are.

Here's the female. She currently weights 790g
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And the male. He has a reddish "ear" He's 520g
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Thanks in advance!
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Re: Trachemys scripta subspecies?

Post by Neil » Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:35 pm

The male is a definite mix, but mostly red ear slider, the female is at least mostly a red ear slider as well. Both probably 5-6 years old I'd imagine looking at them, both been growing a little quickly, the female especially as you can tell from the lumpy shell ~thmbu
0.1.0 - Chelydra serpentina
*.*.* - Graptemys ouachitensis
*.*.* - Pseudemys concinna
*.*.* - Pseudemys nelsoni
*.*.* - Trachemys scripta elegans
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Re: Trachemys scripta subspecies?

Post by NorfolkTurts » Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:09 pm

Thanks Neil, that sounds about right.

I've been recording their growth rates for the last two years (by weight only) and will post this soon. The bumping in the female's shell, is this pyramiding or failure to shed properly? They have a good diet and UV lighting but I may overfeed, I feed about five days per week. I fear that their current basking area is too humid (I have plans to improve this) which might limit proper drying.
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Post by Neil » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:36 pm

Hi, it's basically the same thing, pyramiding is just an extreme result which usually can't be reversed whereas just a few retained scutes will generally shed and then all is well again. Depending on what and how much you're feeding, 5 days a week is likely quite a bit too much, what does their diet contain? Do you have a lid on the tank, and what are the water and basking temps?
0.1.0 - Chelydra serpentina
*.*.* - Graptemys ouachitensis
*.*.* - Pseudemys concinna
*.*.* - Pseudemys nelsoni
*.*.* - Trachemys scripta elegans
*.*.* - Trachemys scripta scripta

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Re: Trachemys scripta subspecies?

Post by NorfolkTurts » Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:16 am

Their staple is koi pellets with a high D3 content, about 5g total for the two of them per feed. They also some vegetables (carrot, broccoli and pond plants) a couple of times a week. The water temp is usually about 22C. I don't know the basking temp but it feels warm, probably low 30s. The tank is partially covered, about 2/3, while the remainder above the basking area has eggcrate. I plan to increase the height of the basking area and to increase the airflow around it. They are due a new tank but I'm waiting for the right one on ebay. They currently have 250L but I intend to double or triple this depending on what's available.
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Re: Trachemys scripta subspecies?

Post by Neil » Fri Oct 09, 2015 5:03 pm

Winter (wheatgerm), or Summer (protein) koi pellets?
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*.*.* - Pseudemys concinna
*.*.* - Pseudemys nelsoni
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Re: Trachemys scripta subspecies?

Post by NorfolkTurts » Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:43 pm

The pellets are "all season's" and have wheat as the third ingredient
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