4 new turts sex ID help please

Species and sex I.D. questions.
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Squirtle
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4 new turts sex ID help please

Post by Squirtle » Wed May 01, 2013 1:42 pm

Hi, I recently acquired these guys any idea on species/sex and suggestions on suitability for wintering outdoors in a 4x2x1 meter wedge shaped bottomed pond I am currently digging

first up is what looks to me as a YBS possibly crossed cooter male?
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YBS female ?
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cumberland/map female?
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finally another female?
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many thanks for taking the time to look
Scott

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Re: 4 new turts sex ID help please

Post by Neil » Wed May 01, 2013 1:47 pm

Hello and welcome to the site and forum :)

Male Florida Red Belly (cooter)
Male (young) YBS
Female River Cooter
Melanistic (ie. old) Female RES

They should all be fine overwintering in your pond depending on location, and they certainly need to be in a pond with their potential sizes!!
0.1.0 - Chelydra serpentina
*.*.* - Graptemys ouachitensis
*.*.* - Pseudemys concinna
*.*.* - Pseudemys nelsoni
*.*.* - Trachemys scripta elegans
*.*.* - Trachemys scripta scripta

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Re: 4 new turts sex ID help please

Post by Squirtle » Wed May 01, 2013 4:20 pm

Neil wrote:Hello and welcome to the site and forum :)

Male Florida Red Belly (cooter)
Male (young) YBS
Female River Cooter
Melanistic (ie. old) Female RES

They should all be fine overwintering in your pond depending on location, and they certainly need to be in a pond with their potential sizes!!
Thanks for the quick response and welcome Neil, I had suspected some cooter in there, the red belly and the RES or should I say lack of red in either of them had me a bit stumped and it looks like I was miles out with the river cooter.
Scott

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Re: 4 new turts sex ID help please

Post by Neil » Wed May 01, 2013 7:45 pm

Squirtle wrote:...the red belly...or should I say lack of red...had me a bit stumped...
Northern red belly's actually do have quite a red-orange belly, but the vast majority of Florida red belly's have little to no red in them at all ~cnf-dunno
0.1.0 - Chelydra serpentina
*.*.* - Graptemys ouachitensis
*.*.* - Pseudemys concinna
*.*.* - Pseudemys nelsoni
*.*.* - Trachemys scripta elegans
*.*.* - Trachemys scripta scripta

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Re: 4 new turts sex ID help please

Post by Turtle-Arts » Wed May 01, 2013 11:39 pm

Neil wrote:Hello and welcome to the site and forum :)

Male Florida Red Belly (cooter)
Male (young) YBS
Female River Cooter
Melanistic (ie. old) Female RES

They should all be fine overwintering in your pond depending on location, and they certainly need to be in a pond with their potential sizes!!
Not a nelsoni Neil, looks more like a peninsularis or floridana. No cusps as far as I can see, and a typical belly pattern...
  • Pelusios adansonii, P. carinatus, P. castaneus, P. c. castanoides, P. niger,
    P. rhodesianus, P. upembae & P. w. williamsi, Podocnemis expansa, P. unifilis

    ...and many more species...

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